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Reddawn
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« on: June 27, 2007, 05:22:45 PM »

I am still going to wait for someone to buy one first (piquon) but I am still leaning towards it. All the videos I've seen are swank!!!!

I can surf ESPN on the shitter!

btw...I hate most apple products so don't call me a fanboi Smiley
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Bleezy
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 05:29:56 PM »

Goddamn fanboy.
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Reddawn
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 05:31:09 PM »

and don't call me a fanboy either!
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 05:41:39 PM »

The fact that you can search youtube on it really peaked my interest.  I mean.. that means you get Alizee on you're phone.  But alas, I just got a new phone, so I'm gonna be with this one a while.  Maybe when iPhone 2.0 comes out or whatever.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 09:44:25 PM »

Yeah the bandwidth on it will be pretty horrible...even in ideal conditions.  Hopefully the next revision will support 3G and then web surfing might be feasible.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 01:22:44 AM »

Doesn't matter..... it's on AT&T.  GSM sucks arse when it comes to data.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 03:14:28 AM »

I'm still amazed on how much hype this thing generates .... I mean wtf 90% of this functionality I have on my blackberry and I'm two models behind ...
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2007, 03:16:22 AM »

AT&T...is that Cingular?
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 04:27:48 AM »

Yes... Cingular is now AT&T.  What a total clusterfuck that deal was.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 02:27:05 PM »

AT&T wireless merged with Cingular, and now Cingular is AT&T.  What the eff david blane.

At least the customer support department got a major kick in the ass.  At cingular stores I couldn't get help even if I just handed over my wallet, now at least they help with pretty much anything.
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Reddawn
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 03:00:52 PM »

man as more info comes out it's not looking good.

battery life is 300 to 400 charges and when it dies you have to send it in and pay for a new one....wtf
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 03:19:44 PM »

When I was handling cellular at the last company I worked for, a lot of good AT&T people lost their jobs or quit because they didn't subscribe to the way Cingular did things.  Here's the overview of that whole dilio...

Cingular's SBC bought the wireless division of AT&T.  They merger plan was about 2-3 years long to consolidate towers, replace marketing, rebrand AT&T as Cingular etc.  Literally as that timeframe was coming to a close, what was left of AT&T decided to merge (read buy-out) with SBC and kept the AT&T brand therefore meaning that all the rebranding campaign money spent to change AT&T cellular to Cingular was a waste of precious millions of dineros and they have to do it all over again to change it back to AT&T.

Doesn't matter.... I always liked AT&T's customer service... it's the network that bites.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2007, 01:09:10 AM »

Saw this on Consumer Reports.org tonight...

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June 27, 2007
The iPhone and AT&T Wireless: A match made in, well, not heaven?
 While the iPhone itself might live up to its considerable hype--we’re still a few days shy of getting our hands on one--Apple’s exclusive deal with AT&T Wireless for cellular service could leave some users happy they can also use the phone to listen to music or watch YouTube clips.

That’s because for several years, AT&T Wireless--formerly known as Cingular--has been among the least satisfying service providers, according to Consumer Reports’ annual customer satisfaction surveys.

In fact, in our latest report, from January 2007, AT&T had  “middling to low” customer satisfaction, with static and busy circuits cited as widespread problems (as they’ve been in our previous surveys). Frequent service-related problems were compounded by the company’s relatively low marks for helpfulness in handling customer questions and complaints.

In addition, the iPhone will run on AT&T’s “2.5G” EDGE network, rather than one of the faster “3G” networks available from the major carriers, such as Verizon or Sprint’s EVDO, or even AT&T’s own UMTS/HSDPA network (Don’t worry about the acronyms. The upshot is that EDGE has much lower bandwidth than true 3G networks.). Reportedly, AT&T has been working to upgrade the Internet capabilities of some of its towers to ensure higher minimum data speeds than were originally reported.

And some journalists who received models of the phone in advance have said that AT&T’s  wireless service is a potential weak point. David Pogue of the New York Times' Technology section highlighted our survey findings while Walt Mossberg over at the Wall Street Journal's Personal Technology section has called it "a major drawback" for the sleek device.

(We expect to buy the iPhone on Friday--just like you would. After testing by our reporters and engineers, we'll report our findings here on the Blog as well as on ConsumerReports.org. In the meantime, check out our interactive guide to the iPhone.)

But the combination of slower network speeds and poor customer service might not bode well for early iPhone adopters (there are already rumors that a second-generation iPhone will be 3G-capable), especially since Apple’s deal with AT&T is a five-year exclusive. And AT&T’s just-announced service plans for the iPhone require a two-year commitment.

The good news is that the pricing plans, announced on Tuesday, appear to be competitive. Three versions will be offered, ranging from $60 to $100 per month, and there’s a one-time $36 activation fee. The basic $60 plan includes 450 minutes of voice time. An $80 step-up plan bumps voice time to 900 minutes.  The premium plan, priced at $100 a month, includes 1,350 minutes of talk time. All three include 200 text messages, unlimited data services, and “visual voicemail,” which lets you see the types of voicemail you’ve received and access them individually, rather than in the order in which they were received.

In addition, unused monthly minutes can be rolled over to the next month, and there are unlimited calls between mobile phones.

Want to know what the January 2007 report said?  Here it is:

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Best cell service
42,921 CR readers speak

Tired of dropped calls, “service not available” messages, busy signals, and kkkrrrrrcchhhhhh! static in your ear? Then listen up. Our exclusive survey can show you where to get significantly better cell service.


In our fifth annual survey of cell-phone users, Verizon came out at or near the top in the 20 metropolitan areas we surveyed, as it has in years past. But Alltel, a relatively small carrier that primarily serves the midsection of the country, is emerging as a formidable challenger. Another provider, T-Mobile, is also giving Verizon a run for its (and your) money. In other words, consumers now have more than one decent choice in many places, a positive sign in an industry whose notoriously lackluster performance could only benefit from some real competition.


Almost 43,000 readers took our survey, conducted in September 2006 by the Consumer Reports National Research Center. The survey covered key service issues such as call quality, how well inquiries and complaints were handled, and billing problems.


The 20-city Ratings (available to subscribers) also show the major carriers that generally ended up at the bottom for service, according to our readers. Those include Cingular and Sprint. Nextel, a frequent bottom dweller in earlier surveys, merged with Sprint in 2005.


Among our other findings:
Cell service still leaves a lot to be desired. As a group, cellular carriers scored only 66 on a scale of 0 to 100 for overall satisfaction. (A 100 would mean that all readers were completely satisfied.) That's worse than many of the other services we cover in our surveys, and in a league with other perennial low-scorers, such as cable TV and computer tech support.
Call quality remains an aggravation for many cell phone users. In fact, 54 percent of our readers who switched carriers during the past three years attributed their decision to poor phone service, including dropped calls and no service at home. By contrast, 33 percent were motivated to switch by the promise of a better price.
Most consumers aren’t ready to give up their landlines and go all wireless, all the time. Someday that may happen, but probably not until cell-service quality improves significantly and its 911 issues are more fully resolved (see our January 2006 report on Phoning 911). This year 5 percent of our respondents told us that they currently have a cell phone but no landline at home.


SWITCHING CARRIERS 1-2-3


If you’re ready to switch your cell service, here’s how to find a carrier more likely to meet your needs:


1. Start at the top. If you live in or near one of the 20 metro areas covered by our survey, focus your search on the carriers at the top of that list. Carriers that scored within five points of number one are also worth considering, because they’re statistically about the same. In most of the 20 areas we covered, you’ll have up to three carriers from which to choose. If you live in an area not represented in our survey, see the Quick Picks (available to subscribers) for some advice.


To choose among the top carriers, check their online coverage maps, paying special attention to where you live, work, and travel. Because those maps can vary widely in detail and accuracy, however, go a step further and ask people you know who travel the same streets or make calls from the same buildings whether their carrier provides consistently good service.


If you often use your phone in rural areas or outside the U.S., you’ll also want to consider which network the carrier operates on. The major digital networks are CDMA (code division multiple access) and GSM (global system for mobile). The advantage of the former is that many CDMA phones incorporate analog backup for roaming in areas where a digital signal is unavailable. Many GSM phones, however, provide coverage in other countries, a plus for the globetrotters among us.


Once you choose a carrier, be sure to take advantage of whatever trial period it offers. If you find that service is poor or nonexistent in places where you need it, cancel that contract and try another high-rated carrier from our list.


2. Pick a plan. If you’ve already settled on a carrier, you can go directly to its Web site and compare the plans it offers. As we’ve noted in the past, however, you might have to poke around a little to find the cheapest plan the carrier offers, or else call the carrier and ask.


Comparing plans from different carriers is relatively simple at Web sites such as Letstalk.com (click on Service Plans, then Compare Plans).


If price is your primary concern, the easiest way to compare is on a per-minute basis. For example, when we recently checked rates for Tampa, Fla., Sprint and Verizon were both offering 450-minute plans for $39.99 a month, or about 9 cents a minute. T-Mobile didn’t have a 450-minute plan but instead offered 600 minutes for the same $39.99, or about 7 cents a minute.


If you make few cell-phone calls or want the phone primarily in case of a roadside emergency, consider a prepaid or “pay as you go” plan. In comparing prepaid plans, pay particular attention to what they charge per minute, how soon minutes expire, and whether your minutes can be rolled over. Although we haven’t rated prepaid carriers, some of the major providers are T-Mobile, TracFone, Verizon, and Virgin. You can buy prepaid phones and refill minutes at electronics and office supply stores, as well as online.


3. Bid goodbye to your old carrier. As long as your contract has expired, that will be easy. Just ask your new carrier to switch your existing (and, by law, portable) cell number to the new handset. However, if you still have months to go on your contract, the situation is trickier, especially if you face a whopping early-termination fee. If you’re desperately unhappy with your plan, you may just want to pay the fee and move on. Much as we hate to say it, coughing up a penalty of, say, $150 to get out of the deal may be no worse than paying $50 month after month for service you can barely tolerate. 
 

As usual.... my Verizon is at the top of the pack....

http://www.thewolverines.net/data/Ratings_Cell.pdf
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2007, 01:30:11 AM »

I've been an AT&T Customer since 2004.  I made the official switch to cingular sometime in 2005 when I dropped my first phone in the snow which rendered it useless.

Under Cingular, I've been to middle of nowhere Indiana, Virgina, Maryland, Florida, and Nevada, and never had a problem with service, I usually could at least get access somewhere (well, until I lost my antenna on the other phone, that sucked, but a different issue).  And I never had a problem recieving anything or getting phone calls, and had very few dropped calls.  With this newer phone, it streams video which I've seen it have to buffer in the middle of the video once, every other time the quality was great.

I guess everyone has different experiences.  /shrug
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2007, 01:39:25 AM »

I guess everyone has different experiences.  /shrug

exactly....
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