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Title: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Snackcakes on December 15, 2008, 02:17:43 PM
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/5/sony_s_blu_ray_win_not_paying_off_yet_americans_love_their_old_dvd_players



Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: thrun on December 15, 2008, 02:25:01 PM
Blue ray the next minidisc?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniDisc


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Troyer on December 15, 2008, 03:08:11 PM
Hah!


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Armonde on December 15, 2008, 03:28:16 PM
I've still got my old 1987 Daytron television , high def next gen dvd players mean nothing to me, HA!


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: thrun on December 15, 2008, 03:36:05 PM
I've still got my old 1987 Daytron television , high def next gen dvd players mean nothing to me, HA!

I have a coby DVD player and a TV I bought of craigslist for 20 bucks. 


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Kith on December 15, 2008, 03:51:39 PM
Can't say that I am surprised.  Regardless of what people think about Blu-ray, the economy is in the pooper so luxury electronics sales were bound to take a big hit.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Reddawn on December 15, 2008, 03:53:52 PM
hahaha varg....you failed with Sony


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Stallionite on December 15, 2008, 04:05:42 PM
So I got up at 4am on Black Friday to spend $200 on a player for nothing.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Reddawn on December 15, 2008, 04:06:28 PM
pretty much


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Jim Tressel on December 15, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
That's awesome.

When HD-DVD was torpedoed by the cocksuckers at Sony, I was unsure what to do.  On the one hand, I like high def so I thought about getting a BR player.  On the other hand, I didn't want to re-buy all of my HD stuff on BR, so I was going to buy a hd/br combo player.  Then, I realized that within the next 5 years, all content will be available in a high definition, digital, streaming format and that physical media is a thing of the past.  So now I buy nothing, enjoy what I have, and watch the Netflix instant queue library grow.

Fuck Sony.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Snackcakes on December 15, 2008, 04:52:50 PM
lets keep this thing going, here's another log for the fire

http://www.pcworld.com/article/155483/is_sonys_ps3_really_a_sinking_ship.html


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Reddawn on December 15, 2008, 05:01:46 PM
recompile the kernal


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Varg on December 16, 2008, 02:06:47 AM
Yea, sales are a bit slow for the format. But there are no other alternatives (except to be a xbox fanboy and cry about HD lolz)

When players are affordable and the Bluray discs are not overpriced they will see a sales jump. Lots of HD tvs will be sold this Christmas and before the digital conversion (due to asshole best buy employees telling old people they need a 50 inch plasma to watch public television).

What I think will be interesting is if services like netflix on xbox and comcast video on demand edge physical sales out of the picture, sort of like what itunes and mp3 did to the cd. The netflix watch instantly service is ahead of its time, and has a long way to go, but its inevitably the way things will progress.



Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Rakrarr on December 16, 2008, 02:28:20 AM
I'm with JT about physical media old news.

Of course i've always been a renter as opposed to a buyer.  I don't want to pay 20 bucks for a movie i watch once, and not having a hugh stack of dvd cases in nice too, especially when you live in 628 square feet.

I haven't purchased a dvd in at least a year maybe two.  I will probably never buy a blue ray.

I've been using Nexflix instant view.  havent done the direct to TV thing yet but you can now even download it to your tivo, and tivo has video on demand through amazon, so, I'm all about the video on demand throught multiple sources.

Edit
I just read some of that first acticle.  I love how they call it the difinitive next generation player.  Well, maybe but thats gonna be a short generation.  To me that whole HD vs BR fight seemed like something that would have made the winner a shit load of money like 10 years ago.  I hope they didn't spend too much money winning that one.

Does anyone know how much they spent?  all I found was a 3 billion loss from initial discount ps3 sales.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Jim Tressel on December 16, 2008, 05:00:14 AM
Sony paid Warner half a billion dollars to go BR exclusive which was the deciding factor.  Yes.  $500,000,000.00.  They didn't win on audio/video quality (HD is arguably better in both regards), the technical merit of their players (BR still doesn't require manufacturers to make all players support all features which Toshiba did from the start), time to market of media (BR format takes much longer to master and produce), or cost (HD players were very much cheaper.  The PS3 is still regarded as the cheapest, decent BR player). 

Sony torpedoed HD, and now nobody wins.



Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Kith on December 16, 2008, 01:52:24 PM
(BR still doesn't require manufacturers to make all players support all features which Toshiba did from the start)

I'm sorry, but I always found it hilarious when the hard-core HD-DVD crowd would bitch about this fact.  Think back about 30-35 years ago to Betamax - Sony placed a number of restrictions on how the format would be handled and the rest of the industry decided they didn't want to do that, so they rallied behind JVC and adopted a cheaper product (VHS) with inferior quality.  This time around Sony tries to make everyone happy by not placing restrictions on the technology and people pitch a fit over it. 

I know it's a radical idea, but maybe people could actually try and research a product before the buy it. 


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Kastil on December 16, 2008, 01:56:19 PM
BR = Battle Royale?


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Snackcakes on December 16, 2008, 02:22:50 PM
KAS!


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: thrun on December 16, 2008, 02:34:22 PM
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/BrandoBardot/BattleRoyaledoll.jpg) .


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Troyer on December 16, 2008, 03:55:19 PM
(except to be a xbox fanboy and cry about HD lolz)

Hey, Varg. Eat a dick.


JT = correct.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Varg on December 16, 2008, 03:59:23 PM
I actually agree with JT, but your still all fanboys.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Snackcakes on December 16, 2008, 04:03:26 PM
I actually agree with JT, but your still all fanboys.

your mom is a fanboy. true story.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: 100watt on December 16, 2008, 04:28:02 PM
here's an interesting link on Netflix's streaming media:
http://blog.netflix.com/2008/11/encoding-for-streaming.html

Can't say that I am surprised.  Regardless of what people think about Blu-ray, the economy is in the pooper so luxury electronics sales were bound to take a big hit.

QFT.

...Then, I realized that within the next 5 years, all content will be available in a high definition, digital, streaming format and that physical media is a thing of the past...

I am also looking forward to the day that I can just stream real HD media to my home theater (picture AND sound), but that day isnt as close as I would like it to be. In the meantime, i'm gonna be content with Blu-Ray on my PS3 and some streaming via Netflix on my 360.

Oh wait, was I supposed to flame something? Shiat.


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: Snackcakes on December 16, 2008, 06:47:57 PM
(http://www.totalbeverage.net/images/wrong_internet.png).


Title: Re: This one is for you JT, stay strong
Post by: ch0wdah on December 17, 2008, 05:33:18 AM
Damn Snacks...I'm reassessing my life based on that comic.


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