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Just a matter of time.

Obama himself said "Judge me by the people I surround myself with"

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First Van Jones, then this dumb broad that, on command of Communist-in-Chief, declared war on a media outlet, Fox. She's caught confessing her love for Mao Zedong. I'm sure this dumb bitch will be going away real soon.

Communists and Socialists all over that mother fucker... must be one too as to his own words. Theres even plenty more to go.

Thats your President you voted for.

Just sayin'

really another trust worthy sorse

You watch the vid? Thats Anita Dunn in her own words mate.

4:33 in.

This administration is bleeding Commies

I watched the video and, as usual, experienced the same blow-hard mangling of a point that only Glenn Beck and Fox News can deliver.

Where was the part of her speech where she said she admired Mao's personal ethics, policies, or purges that led to the deaths of millions?  It wasn't shown because it doesn't exist.  Instead, she referred to him as one of her favorite two political philosophers (the other being Mother Fucking Teresa).  That's not outrageous at all and you know it.  Politicians study and take lessons from Mao Tse-tung the same way they study Washington and Lincoln and FDR and Stalin, or the way scientists study Einstein and Edison and Newton and Darwin, or the way military commanders study Jackson and Hitler and Napoleon and Patton.  He was one of the most important political actors of the 20th century and is still hailed in China as the savior of their country.  Yes, he did some horrible shit later on in his rule, but that doesn't mean he never did anything worthy of admiration.

You've made it obvious that you consider yourself an amateur historian of sorts.  Don't you study the Roman Empire?  Don't historians, military commanders, and politicians alike learn lessons from and admire the achievements of the Roman Empire?  Wasn't the Roman Empire also directly responsible for the deaths of untold millions?

Glenn Beck isn't smart enough to discern between intellectual admiration and theological guilt by association...or perhaps he is, but he's also smart enough to know that his time slot depends on his unwavering devotion to Fox's McCarthyist tactics.

C'mon, you're better than this.  Take the blinders off and step away from the Flavor Aid.  :)

I wish fox news would be true patriots and stop attacking our president in a time of war.  The man needs our prayers and support.  

Love it or leave it!

Chairman Mao, Stalin, and Hitler all are equals. If someone said they admired Hitler or Stalin that would not be universally accepted. I don't see why this is any different.

I see no sense in liberal apologists JT. Or Republican ones for that matter. It is getting close to a time when the several states need to manage their own affairs and ALL the idiots in Washington DC need to take a closer look at the constitution. And stick to the defense of the nation and foreign policy.

The true greatness of our country lies in our freedom to question our leadership even in a time of war. And come on, lets be honest, President Obama is a lack luster war president at best. Our commanders in the battlefield need our prayers because they are living in the NOW, and make decisions that affect thousands of soldiers lives (and their families) in split seconds. And when they ask for help, our current administration puts together a commitee to decide what to do. The President needs to make a decision, not congeal opinion, take a poll, see how Biden feels about it. All that is bullshit. If past war presidents had acted this way, we'd be speaking German. (BTW, FDR was a great war president, and he was a democrat, so don't blast me as being anti-democrat)

I'm not saying it's reasonable to admire Mao, the ruthless communist tyrant.  But that isn't to say there aren't lessons to be learned from studying him and that his political strategy and military accomplishments weren't noteworthy.  The same is true for Hitler.  He was a horrible human being, but he is often credited as being one of the most effective leaders and commanding orators in history.  There's a lot to learn (not the genocide and unprovoked invasions parts) and one can respect his ability to inspire his countrymen, while still hating him for being pure evil.

Thrun is just kidding about questioning the president in a time of war.  He's commenting about the double-standard championed by the right wing wherein it was "unpatriotic" to speak out against the Bush administration, but now they can't get each others' dicks out of their mouths quick enough to bash Obama and his administration.  They hypocrisy is blinding and ridiculous and they carry on as if it never happened.

Regarding our troops on the ground, I would rather we send more armor than prayers.

DC is definately full of hypocracy.

Come on now, who do you, who do you, who do you, who do you think you are?
Ha, Ha, Ha! Bless your soul. You really think you're in control?

Well, I think youre crazy

I don't mean to be presumptuous, but our troops would probably rather have armor from the very real bullets than the vague prayers from a stranger to a "god" that doesn't exist, but who, even in the extremely off-chance that he does exist, has statistically never shown any sort of bias in times of war.

That's not crazy.  Crazy is blowing kisses instead of giving real world money and supplies.  Crazy is asking a god to intervene and "help our boys win the war".  The other side is praying the same thing to their god.  They think you're just as crazy as you think they are...and you're both right.

On the subject of body armor

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Just say'n. 

Prayer is free, I think whoever wants to send it should, but they should also shell out the dough for the armor.

any student of history knows how Afghanistan ends. you waste lives until you finally pull out.

punishing Al Quaeda for 9/11 - check
punishing the Taliban for 9/11 - check
killing OBL - TBD
staying there indefinitely to protect an infinite Haliburton contract to upgrade Afghanistan from the early Sumerian period - go fuck yourself.

I will say this. I find it interesting that we managed Adghanastan just fine until last January with less than 24000 troops. Now that we are pulling out of Iraq we all of a sudden need 100000 troops in Afghanastan? Either the military is full of shit or Obama is wagging the dog. You may have got the impression from my earlier post that I thought we should send more troops. I just think the president need to make a decision. Not waffle. I actually agree with Biden of all things only I think we should do more. World wide surgical strikes. Special forces in any country thay supports terror.

Define "terror".

Courtesy of Dictionary.com

–noun
1. intense, sharp, overmastering fear: to be frantic with terror. 
2. an instance or cause of intense fear or anxiety; quality of causing terror: to be a terror to evildoers. 
3. any period of frightful violence or bloodshed likened to the Reign of Terror in France.
4. violence or threats of violence used for intimidation or coercion; terrorism.
5. Informal. a person or thing that is especially annoying or unpleasant.

Shit, the police do that all the time to keep me from enjoying drugs. 

Any person or organization that has an intent to harm the United States or its citizens.

The way you feel when Red has gas.

HEY!

Yeah it's really some suspect shit. Does it have something to do with scheming defense contractors? Is it the fact that Afghanistan is the worlds biggest producer of Opium?

I, nor most of us dont have the facts for that, but it really is fucking suspect whats going on.


People go on about "oh it's just how Afghanistan is", and go on to inaccuractly cite historical incursions.

First, Alexander didn't lose any battles, nor did he lose territorial gains. He parked his shit right up on India before he turned back. It was only some time after did the successors, the Seleucids, lose the territory.. actually I believe that was part of the territory bargained to the Indians for war elephants.

Second, that shit about the Soviets losing in it, they were kicking the shit out of the Afghan's until America started funneling supplies in for the Afghans, then later stinger missles to make Soviet air inept.

It's all bullshit, and I only wonder if the Russians now are somehow involved, just to fucking get back at us. I tell you one thing, if we found any evidence of such interaction by Russians, be it arms, or limited information or training, thats something this administration wouldn't share with the public.

That would just make Obama look the fool after all that Russian ass kissing, and cancelling of the eastern European missle shield.

You know it's true.  Don't be ashamed, revel in it and love the looks on peoples faces when it happens.

You say this like it doesn't already happen and that he doesn't already revel in it!  Red's farts are the stuff of legends.

Oh and on topic:  There's no conspiracy going on in Afghanistan.  We need to send more troops, so let's send more in if that's what the commanders need.  If we don't do that, then we GTFO and keep spec ops in to fuck with the terrorists constantly.  Send some more Predator drones in to shoot missles at 'em.  Just don't let them rest on their laurels ever again or else we'll most certainly have another 9/11.

So would that also include all of the gangs and organized crime in our own borders?

you forgot the government itself as a whole

...which is why it's stupid to say we're fighting "terror".  It sounds patriotic and fits well on a bumper sticker, but it means jack shit.  It's like launching a war against jealousy.  Or a war against loneliness.  By supporting a war against "terror", we are effectively giving the military carte blanche so long as whatever they're doing is stopping terror from happening.  And that would be well and good, except it's an ambiguous term and there is no decent metric by which success can be measured.  So how do we maintain accountability, determine strategy, control costs, or withdraw in a responsible way?  We are, after all, fighting an idea.

I know right.

It's almost as ignorant as taking Obama at his word that he is going to magically heal, the world and get rid of all the nukes.

It's almost as naive as taking Obama at his word that universal healthcare would be free, and the funding will come back from medicare/caid waste.

It's almost as fucking stupid as Obama suggesting that doctors amputate patients to get 50,000 dollars profit.

Obama says AARP is endorsing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4lx6aEGO_0
 
AARP saying they are not endorsing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T0jwAiYb18
 
Obama using fear mongering to suggest doctors amputate for 50,000 profit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG56B2et4M8
 
American College of Surgeons rebukes Obama's claim of 50,000
http://www.facs.org/news/obama081209.html

Scoreboard!!!

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Clearly you need to stop waging your "War on Jealousy" against me.



Damn I just had to add these, they came up in search for caveman. Looking at them JD really does portray the stereotypical caveman
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Dear Night,

Please stop being stupid.

Thanks,
World

If I am going to fight a war for a word. 

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This is all moot now anyways, PROOF INFALLIBLE PROOF! That Obama is the anti-christ

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=64243332

What..

Are you trying to dispute the fact that Johnny Damon does resemble a caveman?

You are fucking out of your rocks.

3:17, misspelled "heights".  Can't be true cause this guy is using a computer without spell-check.

I starting to believe Night is actually Glenn Beck irl.

Nightstalker raped and murdered a young girl in 1990.

http://gb1990.com/index.php