Dungeons and Dragons Online

[Volk]

Got my computer all set up, so I might start a character on DDO sometime. What's up with the micro-payment thing, though? What's the conversion ratio for USD:DDO points?

[Farkas]

not enough to worry about  just  pay the $15 a mouth and get the 500 points every month, 10 character slots and free content and warforged race.

[Nightstalker]

Or you can pay $0 and work up your reputation and get all of that for free.

[Volk]

Or you can pay $0 and work up your reputation and get all of that for free.

This

[Farkas]

true but from what i was reading you almost have to make a toon on every server to do it

[Nightstalker]

true but from what i was reading you almost have to make a toon on every server to do it

No, you build up rep on a single character.

[Volk]

So, what kind of build is the DDO group lacking?

[Farkas]

night that takes forever. if i have to wait on content i might aswell play wow

[Nightstalker]

night that takes forever. if i have to wait on content i might aswell play wow

Not really.

This aint anywhere near grinding levels of WoW, which is a played out game.

[Arctic]

OK my 2 cents worth and i asked people who have been playing a while.  If you pay the monthly fee get all this cool shit then maybe not want to play that much or the monthly fee you lose all the content and stuff you received, now with the free account, while if you grind rep, maybe buy a few things, there attached to the account permanently.

[Farkas]

not fully true. you do lose access to some stuff. but not all, there are 3 levels of the game  the free account the vip account and the one in between  cant remember what its called. Now if you cancel vip you drop down to the second level which still has 4 character slots  and a couple of other things plus you would still have the 500 points  that you got every month from having been a vip  to spend still seen as how there isnt really that much thats practical to spend them on unless you had to have a favored soul or something. Anyway i was only  putting the idea out there for people that didnt feel like doing rep grinds all over again.
On a side note there are  certain rep grinds that  you should do for the bonus items that you get from them

[Nightstalker]

Rep grinds aren't anything like WoW.

You get the rep when you are leveling up, while doing quests for gear and gold.  Whereas with WoW you are doing that shit at your max level, doing ignorant shit like picking berry bushes and shit.

[Reddawn]

WoW, which is a played out game.

which is different from DDO in that no one played it so they made it free  SUITE

[Nightstalker]

People mostly bought into Blizzard hype and hysteria, which has made it successful. If Blizzard had made DDO, and WoC/Atari made WoW, it would be a different situation no question.

They buy into the Blizzard hysteria, which in turn enables gives them more revenues to enhance their product. Self perpetuating process.

Granted Blizzard can, and has put out some good merchandise, but if you take off the love goggles, you will see that many games are far superior in graphics and content, as compared to WoW's cartoon, Baskin Robbins graphics.

It's this hysteria that everyone has bought into, which everyone is playing, and this keeps it's people in locked in mental stasis.

I mean damn, take a minute to reflect the overview of the game. People spend hours a day clicking on berry bushes and literally sifting through dung for quests to build up "reputation", and for materials for a raid that may fail or not even happen at all. Really the only reputation being built here is the player's gullability to Blizzard, which is farming millions of people.

90% preparation vs 10% experience.

Whereas a game like Planetside is completely opposite, 10% / 90%  but has had the misfortune of not being published under a monster like Blizzard. And despite not having had the luxury of such a brand name and it's followers, the game would have been much more successful if SoE had at least lifted its ass up to work on it every now and then.

Reflecting on WoW, its amazing that I played as long as I did, though only contributed to a just over par PVP system. It's really annoying that gear was the critical factor there, and the targeting combat system ignorant.

Just sayin'

[Farkas]

damn Night  we aren't meant to agree. but the last post is spot on