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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2010, 03:25:31 AM »

No you didn't.  You've no where near paid enough taxes to shoulder the burden of what you have used, and it's pretty fucking simple all you have to do is renounce your citizenship and find some other plot of land dumb enough to put up with your idiocy.

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2010, 03:27:53 AM »

I haven't?  the government sure fucking seems to think I did or else they would have complained and refuse me any of that fucked up service they offered.

And YOU mother fucking move your hippy ass to Europe if you want fucking social service programs, and leave people who recognize Rights steming from property to the U.S.

We be much better off without people like you. You've already fuck it up enough crying for hand me outs as it is.

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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 03:40:23 AM »

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

darn those large budget items.
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2010, 03:50:03 AM »

It's not enough, lets add more!

Socialize Healthcare! Socialize food!


Also, no hard feelings Thrun. We are all entitled to our own beliefs and I still love you  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2010, 12:20:18 PM »

Looking at that debt clock I can guarantee you didn't pay enough in taxes to even cover your share of the interest, so no you haven't. And I still think you are a hypocritical leach that sponges off society when it is convenient for you then bitches about it when it's not, and you should probably get your tongue out of Glenn Beck's anus. 

If you honestly believe that rights stem from or should only be afforded to people that own property some one needs to slit your throat and bleed you like the pig you are.




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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2010, 12:26:17 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2010, 01:21:22 PM »

It ain't perfect but at least we're not 3rd world...

I can understand not being happy with the current systems in place, I'm certainly not happy with them. But take a trip, spend some time, hell move to a third world country for a few years then come back and appreciate what you do have. It may not even take years, some of you wouldn't last a few weeks.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2010, 07:02:44 PM »

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Save your breath, Thrun.  You can't get through to someone who promotes his paranoid fantasies under the guise of personal conviction.  Some people have, consciously or not, forsaken reason and intellectually-honest debate in favor of shouting "fire" in a crowded room.  Just say "stupid" and move on.

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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2010, 07:13:14 PM »

No, it's time this gets settled once and for all.  Armed revolution! The streets will flow red with the blood of the bourgeois pigs.  

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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2010, 08:26:15 PM »




Get a job you damn hippy!  How do you have so much time to write all this?
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2010, 09:10:13 PM »

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If you honestly believe that rights stem from or should only be afforded to people that own property some one needs to slit your throat and bleed you like the pig you are.

Really, you don't agree with that?

You want to continue this argument? Fine.

You do realize that your body is property right? And who's property is it? Is it someone else's ? Are you a slave? or do you own your own body or does someone else? Do you have a Right to your property, or does someone else?

Do you want to fucking hand that property over "for the good of the community" ?

I hope not, or else in your case 13th Amendment is being violated. "But the Constitution and this country is stupid weeeeee..."




How about other properties, such as things we make or buy that we own? You want to live in a country in which that shit belongs to the "community?" :



Suppose you with your own labor and materials build for yourself a chair in which to use while in front of a t.v., because "the community" atm has no more chairs to provide.

And since you live in a communist/socialist country, the "Labor Center" gets word from the community that you have a new chair so Vlad and Yan from the Labor Center comes to pay you visit.

 -  Vlad "Hey Thrun we hear that you made a new chair.. nice, looks suite man. Hey, look we're gonna go ahead and take this chair for Mr. Kushinko down on Mao street".

 -  Yan "We respect the fact that you made this chair, but Mr. Kushinko is older than you, and has been waiting for a chair much longer, and we feel that it's in the best interests of the greater good of the community that he have it".


ok.. you might be a little ticked off, because you've been fucking having back spasms and that chair helped to alleviate those problems, and now you have to sit on a hard wooden floor to enjoy watching Hannahski Montanaski.

So you reluctantly build another chair, and not a day later the Labor Center comes by to do an audit of the items which are contained in your community house. They find out about the new chair, and Vlad and Yan come to pay you a visit:

-  Vlad "Damn dude, you a beast with those chair making skills (Yan's in the background doing a raise the roof motion). Hey look, we're gonna go ahead and take this chair for the Labor Center. You use the chair for just leisure purposes, but the Labor Center needs it for work related purposes, which we see as priority."

-  Yan "Yeah, it's kind of silly to have an L.C. conference with one person having to stand up, don't 'cha think? That being said, we still appreciate what you did by making those chairs. It contributes to the greater good of the community. Thanks Thrun, we'll see you for the next audit."


Well are you going to continue to make chairs? Are you fucking stupid?

If you have half a brain, you would tell Vlad and Yan they can go fuck each other "for the greater good of the community" and that those fucking chairs are yours!


But none of that matters anyways because Vlad and Yan come around for the next audit with some shocking news:

- Vlad "Hey man, we're going to have to take this house and move you to a new location. Mr. Pavlov was upset that we had to take the truck he was using, so he got drunk and passed out while he was smoking a cigar. Turned out the cigar ended up burning down the house. We've sent Mr. Pavlov off to be re-educated for 4 years. Hopefully 4 years away from his family will be enough to teach him a lesson."

- Yan "Which brings us to you Thrun. This house is fairly sizable, so we figure we will section it up so that it can accomodate Mrs. Pavlov and her 3 children. As you know, the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few when concerning the greater good of the community"

- Vlad "I'm just going to audit real quick..... ahh, a guitar and drum set. Little Timski ought to appreciate playing with those.... cool, a vibrating spiked dildo. Mrs. Pavlov ought to appreciate that since Mr. Pavlov will be gone for a while.."

- Vlad "Ok all done. Alright, like I was saying, we are going to have to move you. Did you hear that the coal mine in Siberia had another cave in? 230 people died.  Ever since that discovery of big coal in Tunguska, the mine in Siberia has been suffering accidents because all the experienced labor was moved off to Tunguska."

- Yan "Yeah, so we need to round up some more people for Siberian mine. It's a shame that you can't use those great carpenter skills for the good of the community, but for right now the needs for electrity outweigh the needs for household objects"

- Vlad "And at least you still have a job ya know? Well anyways the community sees fit to provide you with some coats and heavy blankets because we know that Siberia can get real cold. Anyways, it's been nice knowing you Thrun. I'll continue thinking about you every time I sit in that chair you made back at the Labor Center, and will tell everyone all about you."


Rights to property including our bodies are bad!!!  

Lets give it all up to the government, so they can partition it for the greater good of the community!!!

 




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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2010, 09:15:34 PM »

I own your mom's body!






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Edit, I forgot to mention that organ donation is a scheme to rob us of our properties rights in the after life! 
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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2010, 10:43:30 PM »

My body is not property.  It is a wonderland.  John Mayer told me so.
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 12:35:50 AM »

I really have nothing of value to add to this argument.  I am, and always will lean more to the left then right but find myself in the center and would like a real 3rd party.  But I did see some  pics I think are funny. and really this thread need an intermition










Enjoy the break you may continue your debate



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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 12:40:50 AM »

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